First, I would like to wish everyone here have a wonderful coming holiday with your family, friends, and contacts.
Then spend your free time to answer these questions:
What are you going to do to take back the money you over printed safely without forcing down the market acceleration which may cause deflation out of inflation, and must guide it runs into mid point while the green papers ( the take back ) must earn interest?

Second is how do you solve the current mortgage crisis without the option the gov would buy back this bad sector from the banks, while the banks don't want to accept the big lost?
Please be fair to think for all parties include the gov, banks, debtors and taxpayers.

The questions would give you an exciting week without stressing while waiting for your lover shops for too many expensive gifts.

Bearrally, DayTrad, S&P500, Wink, Stocktrader, Nikkei, and all other members please join to play.

Nang Saigon,

Nang Saigon

If they're as smart as able to answer your questions, they won't not be here

Tụi nó chỉ là 2 con lợn ngu xuẩn, đần độn và ích kỷ thui. Tin tụi nó có ngày không còn đôi đủa để ăn cơm đó

Just my 1 cent

I'd go something with incentive for buying houses, tax break for buying house, citizenship for buying house. On theories, everything sounds workable but in reality, human behaviors isn't something you can be sure. What do you have in mind to work out the current problems?

Wink,
It is a wonderful thought, and it spells out one of the first words in my plan. It is very simple ( to me ), but very big-complicated structure, and can fulfill all we need.
It can cure current ENTIRE crisis, build up an economy from worse to become best and strong while guiding and educating MARKET and SYSTEM organize and reform themselves. THE IMPORTANT POINT is it WORKS OUT THE LONG TERM WELFARE, TAXING, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND PAYING OFF DEBT PROBLEMS. ALL THESE ARE RELATED TOGETHER IN THE PLAN.
The reason I don't want to write up a proposal for this is I need more information to analyze the plan more precisely.
The information I need is too hard and wide for me to get unless the gov can provide or invite me to work with them.
I hesitate to knock on the gov doors because I don't know sure if they would invite me to work with them to write up the plan while I have no one to back up or stand by with me at all.
The Proposal can not be completed with out having to be join with the gov experts to gather all the needs to out come the actual number that sounds logical and achievable.
If I am called for the offer, I proudly accept and work with them. But not have received any yet, I still wait for the call.
If you know someone up stair, please advise them: Although it is not too late, but don't let it gets more worse or attempt to tune by pumping in ( money ) and dumping out ( the employees ) which take to deepen the country more down to mood. This Jan first Friday is not worsen yet, be careful with all following section quarters in 2009 if the gov does not figure out the right tools.
Wink, You are very smart, and creative. Please, look at all the picture sides for every reflection on both cause and effect.
Respectively,
nang saigon

To solve a problem, we first need to know what the problem is. What is the problem? I do not see that there is a real problem that need to be solved.

Irresponsible government, banks, sheep that leveraged to the nose and gambled.

800 billion of CDS that grew to 700 trillion within 10 years, how did we manage that? Instead of calling it insurance, they call it swaps so nobody can understand them is a fraud. What should we do with con artist?

This remind me of the way communist government in vietnam doing business. I agreed with bearally . Nothing can be done much as long as those executive take all the profit in their gambling and leave the people to pay off the bankruptcy in the billions or trillions .

The problem that I see America is the complacency, the lack of critical thinking, the laziness to asking provocative questions, the greeds, etc and the human's natures. Money and power.

-Complacency: Where are the days that Americans actually take part in changing the country, peaceful protests, bus sit in/out, etc. Back when oil was really high, in Burmese, the people actually protest on the street when cost of oil increased 50%. In the US, we have *pray at pumps* for lower price. WTH?
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=33879

-When the people who asked provocative questions are being called unpatriotic, etc. Since when blindly following a leader is patriotic ?

-with regard to the current problem, it's all about money.
Iraq ---> oil ------->money/power.
Banking ------>money/power
When you look at all the agencies we have, FDA, FCC, etc, it's all for the purpose of insure quality. We want good quality for our foods, our flights, etc. We don't want the companies to cut corners where it will affect our health, lives. Take the Melamine Contamination in China for example, why did they do it ? Cut corners in order to make more money of course. Remember the Mad cow disease where the health cow being fed with meat from a sick cows ? Yes, in order to maximize profit, they fed the cow meats so they grow faster. All that because of money.
So why the so called Republicans really think that SELF-regulations for the banking aka MONEY industry is a good thing ? As a matter of fact, they think deregulation = self-regulation of any industries is a good thing.
Have any of you actually think you can leave the wolves in the hen house and expect the best ? History of mankind shows that people actually killed for money and power.
IF people can self-regulated themselves then we don't need supervisors and managers at the work place.

Have any of you ever think that these tactics could be use to deregulate the industry without actually deregulation.
Let's take the banking industry for example. How about putting the bankers in charge of banking and expect no self-serving interest. How about cutting the budget for the agency that watching the banking industries. Let's assume that it need 100 millions to hire 100 people to watch the banking industry. Now cut that budget in half. That will cut the staff in half. Half the staff with the same amount of works ? Do you think that will lead to less effective/cutting corner on regulation ? That's the methods being used before in the Reagan and now in the Bush. That's the method can be used anywhere by any government, companies, etc. Why did we have the Saving and Loans bailout crisis ? Why did we have the Wall Street collapse of 2008 ? Because we let the wolves watch the hen house by itself.

CDS credit swaps, etc, they call it swap instead of insurance because they don't want regulations. And without regulations, one can sell that the same suckers 100 times, without the money reserve to pay for rainy days. Insurances are regulated, swap aren't. Greenspan and the people in charge know full-well.
What should we do with con artists that control our lives and our governments ?...What can we do ? PRAY ??

NANG SAIGON, maybeI am being slow but I didn't see you post your solutions anywhere. To me, your topic/questions here is just a critical challenge for discussion to pass the time and work the mind. None of us really has the power to change what is happening. I am just a peon at some company. Even if I were somebody with connection, don't you think they would want somebody with a proven track records first ? And the big IF is that if they really want to solve the problems.

Wink,
You must be kidding to ask me where my solution is posted!
Yes, none of us have the power to change the system, as not anyone had never thought the day Black was first, and Female later were given right to vote.
You can look back that event deeply to understand why the gov gave them that right.
Today is not different in the past, we are in a very bad situation, and no one has a choice to walk away except empty head.
I can not close my eyes for long, I have to build my children future and it is in the hands of my as it is in every other adult hands as well.
And I know they want to fix the problem but have not known how and where to start first, which I have stated so many times in my posts.
In business, not thing is free, and all is money.
Money is every where, but why too many people love to choose the wrong way to earn them? The time you spend to think how to and make money illegally might consume more time to do in the right way, because you have to pay time to cheat, hide, run, and cry.
Wink, you might not see the moment from the upper, but I see every step they try.
Nang saigon

Nope I am not kidding about not seeing where your solutions is posted. I don't follow your every thread, so I might have missed it. Would you be so kind to sum it up in here ? While you are doing so, please also tell us what steps you are thinking they will try next ? That would also help me to plan out my strategies better.

Wink,
You misunderstood what I said.
I can not predict what the gov would do next, but I observe what they try to do, then finalize its result.
In business, not thing is free.
I gave clue out partialy in my posts to whom gets interested then can contact me for further steps. All I do is would like to help as much as I could with my global constructive business knowledge.
In business, whoever runs first shall be successful. Sometime, you have problem and want to solve. You should think all possible ways and calculate them to locate the right step that would guide you to solve your obstacle.
Example: Giving tax break to all people that does not help much than losing more in your ballance sheet ( which is too under red safe level now ) if you have no bright plan to use this tax break to boot up an economy. Then question should be asked: tax break is the only way? How long can you handle this lost in order to gain in its return?
If you calculated then said, the tax break, and time lost should be fine and in safe gap while waiting for its profit.
Then the next question should be asked: Is your stimulate package would work out the problem for which group or entire system, and how long does it take? Be specific as much as you can to plan out its package details step by step, point to start, and walk your calculation to see how it works. Since you have all the details, you should look at all carefully to eliminate any trap that might mess your plan more worse.
Now, you should be able to see how much the package cost, and how long does it take to have profit returns.
But don't stop there! You still have to question that plan is in long term or short tem. Does it answere your need completely or just helps you lean out from the left rock while right rock hit your other side.
Thus, you can see it is worth or not.
If not, then don't spend time and money to try instead of investing your time to search for a right way that save all more from the lost.
Hope you and others can see what I try to say.
There is not thing to lose when you try to listen for a better idea, and pick then buy it. You are the person who decide what you need to buy.
You lose only 1 day to listen for a new way than losing your 365 days ( or more than that if your plan is too big but lack of right tools ) and money ( too expensive ) to find out your plan does not give you what you need while you try to rush with your unopen mind. Which way is better, you can see it.
Wink, sorry, I often use YOU in my writting that does not mean I point to you. Please, forgive and forget.
Nang Saigon

Wink,
Don't think I am that money sucker.
Some topics, ideas, proposals and solutions are too sensitive and easy to be mistaken. Then those should not be in public talk. I have no problem to speak them out with all completed details to whoever is / are in need freely and privately if that would help largest group.
As I always say, money is not important than human life to me.
Nang saigon

Nang Saigon

It will take a while for this mess to clean up, may be 1 decade or 2 decades. Please look at the Japan housing and stock crash in 1989 until now.

S&P 500,

If there is a problem, what is the problem? I don't see a problem.

Bear

Huh, please clarify.

S&P 500,
It might be yes and no depends on what plan they do have.
Our market is big different than Japan. We have good sources comparing to Japan's limit. If we do right, we can get up quickly in 2 to 3 years. Otherwise, we hurts ourselves more than decade, and might take us to repeat France and England mistakes which calling as the 21 century falling empire. Then it would be very dangerous to all rest of the nation losing their countries to the new dirty coming powers.
Look at the history, it would clearly come back again if our empire is gone than no one can stop the dirty powers.
Nang Saigon

S&P 500,

Everybody and their mother are talking about a problem. What is the problem? Was it a credit crisis problem? If it was a credit crisis problem like everybody is saying, Than nobody can get a loan. But unqualified individuals and companies that can't get a loan is not really a problem, is it?

Nang Saigon,

There are many different between US and Japan.

1. Japan saves, we spends.
2. Japan has one of the best public education system in the world, we have the worst.
3. Japan is one of the biggest exporting country in the world, we are one of the biggest importing country in the world.

there are 3 courses that we need to entertain:

1. Deflationary like japan in the late 80's
2. Inflationary like the US 70's
or 3rd, and this is the one that I fear the most, and this is the one that we are most likely to have in the coming years. It is deflationary of asset, while inflationary of expenses..

Enjoy what freedom that we have left, as a police state is tightening it hand on its citizens... All the necessary to set this into a police state are slowly set in motion.

Bearrally,
At this point, you are too wrong.
Market is market. If you talk about a country who has stable financial system, then you are right.
But if you talk about a best country who has best market, then you are wrong.
In business, I, you, and all others want to make money as much as we can. That is why all smart traders want to seek for a best place to play. A best place for business is call a best market. A best market must be containing all strong tools. The tools are clearly regulated to ensure you don't get rip off, provide fair competition, and secure all traders.

Now, let's talk on our weakest points.
First, many investors claimed they lost their money in this market.
How did they lose? Because they did not know when / where to go and time to stop. They knew how to get into the door, but did not know how to get out from the door before they entered.
Second, our system is still having too many things that need to be developed and regulated since we have widely expanded. These creates plenty traps that do not just kill the traders, but also hurt the system itself well. That includes finance, investment, tax, medicare, human, and good sources.
However, if you look all other market globally, then you can not find any better than this ( that is why I said it needs to be developed and regulated ).
You should know the market that can not be running smooth if it does have any of above objects I described ( these are just few items I simply listed ).
Third, we have failed this time deeply because we structured the big tanks ( look all the problems we have now to see what we have missed ) but forgot to design its heating / cooling elemental vents, this trapped all of us.
If the country has a lot of saving, but no one want to spend, then what is the problem? It has to look for an outside market. If no one from the outside wants to trade with it, then what is the next problem?
Your saving is worthless. You can call it is money, but I call it is exactly paper. That is why the Japan, China, and the others have too lend the outside their saving to have trades.
If the outside knows the good points of it, then can convert them into profits. How to prolong the profits is counted on how you invent your market to encourage investors to stay there instead going to others.

Back to your concern that we can entertain into your 3 worse courses. Yes, we can if we don't know what to do right as I stated in previous post indicating the 21th century falling empire. It is the word CAN not MUST or HAVE TO.
Fortunately, there are still many smart human in this country are ready to work these problems out completely.
Nang Saigon

Nang Saigon,

Please do have a little patience.... I might be a little a head of the game, but I haven't been proven wrong yet....

Nobody give a rat what will happen to this country because everybody are made to worry about what they will not have....

All the facts are on the table to avoid any of those courses, but we have chosen to ignore them.....

Previous administration has almost completely exhaust national resources and money as well as man power in the war in iraq. It could have reached trillions of dollars over the years, even worse they spend possibly trillion more to bail out the rich boys. I am not sure how they gonna fix the failing economy or get the money to fix it.